A series of topless photos featuring Miss California Carrie Prejean were leaked to several gossip websites, and even more damaging, Carrie had failed to inform pageant officials of their existence. Her people quickly told everyone she was “naive” and only 17 at the time of the photos thus preventing their publication, but TMZ has learned she was of legal age during the photos, and even took them as recently as this year:
The sponsor (who asked not to use his name) says Carrie sent him one of the topless photos after January 6, 2009, asking “if she was in good enough shape for the Miss USA Pageant.” The date is significant, because that’s the day Carrie got a boob job.
The former sponsor says the pic was post boob job and she was well over 18.
In the meantime, Donald Trump will announce tomorrow whether Carrie will be stripped of her crown for not disclosing the photos to pageant officials and using her title to campaign against gay marriage.
She should be stripped of her crown for the topless pics.....this pushes her over into a definite black and white area and not gray....however I still do not think she "used her crown" to "campaign" against gay marriage....nor do I still think her (or anyone giving "their" opinion" on gay marriage makes them a hypocrite...no matter what they are doing...a liar can say they think abortion is wrong, or a murderer can say drinking is always wrong....it is just an opinion....i don't think you have to be "sinless" to "think" something is wrong...
ReplyDeleteand remember, she was ASKED for her opinion....she was thinking of ways to say what she thought or pushing her feelings where they didn't belong etc......she was ASKED for HER opinion, and she gave it....
ReplyDeleteI meant she WASN'T thinking of ways to say what she thought...
ReplyDeleteMother, she did use her crown to campaign against gay marriage. You know how when you win the contest, you have a little pet project you go around for a year championing, like children's literacy or whatever? She made hers gay marriage. Using her crown to campaign against it is precisely what she did. After the controversy, she even joined some group, I can't remember the name.
ReplyDeleteIf this is the case, why did they ask her in the miss usa contest what she thought?? shouldn't they have already known??
ReplyDeleteYour opinion is that she is too worldly because she is in beauty pageants, she has had a boob job and is in general a hypocrite. Are you also saying that her ultimate goal was to somehow end up as a champion against gay marriage? Somehow to me these two things just do not add up. If she is so worldly and concerned about looks why wouldn't she pick a cause with a little more glamour? I can not see where the big payoff comes in for her from being involved with this cause, unless it was something she is truly concerned about. If the only people who were able to have opinions and work for causes were those who led perfect lives nobody would be doing either one.
ReplyDeleteOh come on. There's a pretty big chasm between living a normal life and parading around in front of cameras, topless with a G string. It just goes back to what I've been saying all along which is that this is her lifestyle. When she takes her clothes off and has pictures taken of her, which she does pretty often, what exactly is she trying to sell? A wholesome lifestyle as intended by God?
ReplyDeleteThey were talking about her on Bill Handel this morning on the radio, talking about how she's supposedly this Christian woman and then she takes pictures like these. I'm sure that was the refrain on talkshows all over the country.
She gives Christians a bad name and makes the whole thing look hypocritical and stupid, which incidentally happens to be the trendy thing to think about Christianity these days. And she's thrown her topless photos into that fire. It gives people ammo.
Its just insane to defend her at this point. It's preposterous. Utterly preposterous to call her anything other than a hypocrite. I can only assume you're arguing for the sake of argument.
Lol, I just realized you wrote that Di, and not my mother. No one has been saying anything besides my mom so I just assumed it was her without even looking at the name. My apologies if my last reply was harsh. I thought I was scolding my mother.
ReplyDeletePS - If anyone would like to see pornographic photographs of the champion of biblical correctness, here you go....
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http://thesuperficial.com/2009/05/miss_california_lying_about_to.php?bfm_index=1&bfm_page=0
How proud her sunday school teacher must be.
I'd LOVE to comment but am afraid I'd start a war.....it's SO hard to remain silent!
ReplyDeleteDanae don't you dare remain silent. We've all been having this conversation and no one has gotten angry with anyone and everything has been fine. As long as we keep it about what it's about and not about insulting each other there is no reason we can't all disagree with each other without it being a fight.
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Really, Danae, join in. It is nice to state your opinion. I think we can all agree on one thing, and that is that it is OK to disagree about things.
ReplyDeleteI've read and seen sooo many conflicting things about this girl, that honestly who knows what all the truth really even is....Just as I've decided (after seeing some of the supposed underwear pics) that she is ridiculous and should not be allowed to keep her crown, and has made a bad name for Christians as well, I will see and hear other things that make me think she was viciously attacked and needless made a specticle of by the media and gay activists...Now I see the president of the pagent has stepped down after she heard she will not be losing her crown as she feels it says the wrong things to her kids and other young girls. Says just like everything else, it is not what it used to be. I have a feeling she KNOWS a lot more than most people, and her stepping down says a lot in my book....Bottom line, WHO KNOWS?? and what I really think is she is not worth all the hoopla...soo many more things are so much more important than what some young (at least somewhat immoral) girl thinks or doesn't think, does or doesn't do, or rather or not she should wear the "crown" or not..., who cares?? Move on America is the way this strikes me....I will stand by my original thoughts on this, rather or not they apply to her or not is not the issue....To have "an opinion" about something controversial, does NOT make you a hypocrite rather you are a pastor, a housewife, or a beauty contestant...and there are all kinds of gray areas in life.....It WOULD be hypocritical for instance (in most people's books I think) for a "Pastor" to be seen in a bar throwing back beers with a scantily dressed girl he is living with. Or for someone giving out tips on how to have a CLOSE relationship with God while living with a boyfriend/girlfriend and enjoying "the party" life....some things just don't go together....But a beauty contestant thinking marriage should be between a man and woman, just doesn't cut it for me as a clear cut hypocrite.....NOW, "if" she is posing for nude pics etc., she has in my book officially crossed the line, cuz she is no longer just a beauty contestant, she is a NUDE PICTURE TAKER (not sure what that title is officially haha) and that's all I have to say about this...
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ReplyDeleteAnd Mom, I don't know how many times I'm going to have to say this... She didn't JUST say her opinion. Championing the anti gay marriage cause is a big part of this girls life, she's part of an organization and she speaks about it in public.
Voicing an opinion doesn't make you a hypocrite. But if you have a hypocritical opinion, and you voice it, and it's obvious to people who see you that you live one life and preach another, that's hypocrisy.
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ReplyDeleteIt's late and as I looked back at them, my comments sounded kind of farty. I will regroup in the morning and possible comment then.
ReplyDeleteHAHAHA how many times I feel the same way....no, too farty, too opinionated, too emotional...etc.... I should follow your example and give it time....will I ever learn?>? hahaha
ReplyDeleteShanna Moakler, the director of the pageant who resigned, had her own little agenda going. She is a former Miss USA and Playboy model. She is also known as the on again, off again wife of the Blink 182 drummer, Travis Barker. They were on a reality show together. When Carrie Prejean announced that she'll be launching a campaign opposing gay marriage with the National Organization for Marriage, Moakler, a strong supporter of gay marriage was upset. Shortly after, Moakler announced she was appearing in new ad supporting gay rights. She shot a print ad April 28 slamming Proposition 8, the initiative that bans gay marriage in California. Miss USA Moakler has released an ad championing gay rights. What's more, her beauty-queen compatriots, former Miss California contestants Raquel Beezley and Tamiko Nash, have joined her in her quest.
ReplyDeleteThe ad blasts Proposition 8—which effectively banned gay marriage in California when it passed last November—and features the trio standing in front of an American flag, with "No H8" scrawled across their cheeks and duct tape covering across their mouths. My point being, I don't think her resignation has much to do with her staunch moral position.
I really don't see how the director stepping down has much to do with it one way or the other. And she didn't exactly step down quietly either, she made a big thing about it, which had me suspicious right off the bat.
ReplyDeleteThis is what I mean...when it comes to most of this stuff I just don't know enough...the thing I read yesterday, which was my first knowledge of Shanna Moakler in any way shape or form, presented it at a much different angle and feel. This proves what I mean when I say I never know what to think or feel on a lot of stuff cuz it is all in how it is presented to you by who wrote the information, or what interview you saw, or how much you know about the whole thing etc..Now I could swing back over to John's feel in a way....OBVIOUSLY all these contestants (or former contestants or winners or whatever) are supporting different political feels and positions etc., and using their crowns as a marketing tool, and if you are going to pick a conservative Christian prospective to support and spout, you'd think the rest of your life would line up that way too else you are just setting yourself and other Christians up for scrunity and ridicule....and nude pics don't work into that feel at all.....I still don' think that she was a hypocrite necessarily for saying what she did or supporting a feel against homosexual marriage as just a beauty pageant woman.....and yet, if her nude pics etc. are a reality, now she is putting herself in a position where she is..... beauty pageants and beauty pageant winners, and boob jobs are one thing, but nude pics or even partially nude pics are quite another....
ReplyDeleteSo I guess this is my most recent position on this topic...I think I may have proven I just need to keep the big one shut...but John you had her a hypocrite long before the nude pics came out, and based just on her life as a beauty pageant winner, and that I STILL don't see.....
Well first of all, what you're saying is that I was right too soon. My stance was that anyone who would get up on stage in those kind of outfits for the sake of a beauty contest is pretty much guilty of the exact same thing as having taken a topless photo. The fact that it turned out she erased the already tiny and blurry line is, to me, kind of a side note.
ReplyDeleteI frankly don't see a huge difference between what she wore on stage at the contest and the topless pictures. What really is the difference? And extra three quarters of an inch of fabric covering a nipple?
YES!! HAHA What she wore at the contest you might see anyone wear at public beach or swimming pool...but we hardly have women walking around bone reg with NOTHING on their tops... but you have somewhat of a point even here....like I did say in the very beginning too, to me parading around in a tiny swim suit for all to judge and critique is a bit boderline as well. I imagine for a healthy man it isn't the best of things for their thought lives either....but then neither would the public beach for that matter...and for some, they avoid that too for that very reason...I can see it, and if it is a problem for most men (as I imagine it is) it really isn't a good idea...Like I said, I would have discouraged Mel from being in one...they are definitely boderline, but I just don't have it in the DEFINITELY a sin category that you do....I think it is an individual conviction between them and God...and let's face it you don't need a beauty contest to dress in a way REGULARLY that lures men and leaves little to nothing to the imagination...women everywhere really have to think about this, beauty pageant or not....
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